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Daewoosh Lanos Sport Turbo 2.0 16V (C20LET/F28)
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RE: Daewoo Lanos Sport 2.0 16V 136WHP (opel c20xe)

Biti će. Imam još dječjih bolesti, pregrijavanje, pakao pod haubom i tako... Moram riješiti bolje ventiliranje motornog prostora, napraviti cijevi za ovaj IC, i dodati još jedan ventilator...

Nekoliko skokova do 200 na 500-tinjak metara i motor se pregrije...

Ali dok je hladan u overboostu stvarno razvaljuje.. Puni svih 6 brzina gotovo jednakom brzinom... Very Happy


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02-28-2008 11:03 PM
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RE: Daewoo Lanos Sport 2.0 16V 136WHP (opel c20xe)

sta cenis, koliko sad izbacuje na tockovima?


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RE: Daewoo Lanos Sport 2.0 16V 136WHP (opel c20xe)

Ma sad je serijala... Niti ne može biti više sa stock IC-om..

Ima 0.4bar boost i 0.8 overboost. Dok overboost traje ide *ebeno. Čim se overboost isključi zbog pregrijanog IC-a, motora i sveg ostalog, onda baš i ne ide nešto posebno...

Doslovce imaš 2 starta i onda moraš hladiti sve jer se overboost isključi...

Riješiti ću to ovih dana, samo da pripašem cijevi na onaj veliki IC...

Pod overboostom slaže brzine ko motor... Puni 6-stu brzinu skoro jednako brzo kao i četvrtu.... Definitivno brže nego što je puno 4-tu XE...


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RE: Daewoo Lanos Sport 2.0 16V 136WHP (opel c20xe)

hehe, pa kako izlazis na kraj sa prenosom snage na podlogu

a reci mi, koliko cest overboost moze stetno da se odrazi na stock motor


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RE: Daewoo Lanos Sport 2.0 16V 136WHP (opel c20xe)

Pa overboost je serijski. C20LET ti tako radi... Ima overboost dok se usisani zrak ne pregrije... Onda spusti tlak turbine...

Motor ima 204KS serijski, ali pretpostavljam da ima i više, jer je ispuh cijeli otvoren i nema katalizator...

Ali to nije niti bitno koliko točno ima... Prvo moram riješiti pregrijavanje, a onda idemo u tuning... Smile

Ali za neko ozbiljnije podizanje snage, treba promijeniti i turbinu, jer ista nema dovoljno veliku protočnost da nahrani motor zrakom tamo gdje je bitno... A to je iznad 6000rpm...


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RE: Daewoo Lanos Sport 2.0 16V 136WHP (opel c20xe)

ok, onda ces dobiti veliki lag, ali na tako laganom auticu to nece biti veliki problem


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RE: Daewoo Lanos Sport 2.0 16V 136WHP (opel c20xe)

rupa je zbog same turbine i to ne možeš izbjeći... A rupa zbog većeg intercoolera će biti 0.01s duža.. Laughing

Ali autić i nije više tako lagan... Sada je cca 1200kg...

Stock: 1050kg 100KS
Sada: 1200kg 200+KS

150kg više a više nego duplo veća snaga... Laughing Ubrzanje do 100 se prepolovilo... Laughing


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RE: Daewoo Lanos Sport 2.0 16V 136WHP (opel c20xe)

ma u stvari, kakva rupa, kad imas menjac Very Happy

stvarno me zanima kako ce to da ide

a sta si resio za prenos snage
imas li neki LSD u planu?


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Motor sa ovakvim boostom ide odlično. Prva je serijski prigušena, ima ograničen boost. Tek pred kraj prve provrti... Druga ne stigne napunit otići u overboost tako da je i u drugoj pitom...

Zato se malo u trećoj počne ritati, ali ima dovoljno trakcije na ravnom asfaltu... Mislim da ubrzanje do 100 je u rangu 6-7s, ali je zato poslije prilično močan... Dok traje overboost... Very Happy

Dobro, nisam ga još skužio kako krenuti da imaš najbolje vrijeme, ali za sada sa ovom turbinom mislim da nije potreban LSD...

Ljudi ne mogu krenuti sa turbakom, kad idu odspajati serijski boost kontroler i stavljaju nekakve šarafe kojim štimaju boost... Nema tog LSD-a koji će prenjeti moment 1bar-a na podlogu u prvoj brzini... Mislim da je bitnije napraviti neki dobar boost kontroler čak i ako stavim veću turbinu...

Stock internals trpe do 300KS, nakon toga se raspadaju klipnjače... Stock klipovi trpe 400-500KS...

Ali nažalost KKK16 nije dovoljno velika da naphrani motor sa toliko zraka... Mislim da joj je realno 250KS gornji limit... Na cesti naravno... Na valjcima će pokazati i do 300KS, ali to je trenutni overboost koji se ne može zadržati bez velikog povećanja temperature komprimiranog zraka...

Jednostavno turbina ode van efikasnog područja...

Turbina je stvarno mala i reagira na vrlo mali pritisak papučice... Ali nažalost zato i nije u stanju nahraniti motor koliko može motor podnijeti...


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RE: Daewoo Lanos Sport 2.0 16V 136WHP (opel c20xe)

da,da,kapiram te

pa to je problem sa single turbo
ili imas start ili snagu

koja je cena celog projekta, bez NOS-a, ako nije tajna


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